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's supporters to pressure congress to increase taxes on the wealthy by releasing a report estimating consumers could spend dplooerl $200 billion less in 2013 if no deal is reached. joining me now live from capitol hill is luke russert. luke, what are you hearing from senators regarding this? i note that chuck todd said we should expect some to go against the pledge. it's interesting to see what the house republicans say. >> that is the whole thing, tamron. sure, you're hearing the senate talking about moving toward a bipartisan deal. you're seeing concessions by folks like saxby chambliss and other folks, however, then tire debate comes down to negotiations between president obama and house speaker boehner. specifically what can he sell to the house republican conference. they've been very stubborn in terms of moving toward any significant raising of tax rates in order to garner revenue. we heard plans that they really do see a way forward with the combination of spending cuts, closing tax loopholes. this so-called vagueness we do not know the specifics oup, they're saying, folks, support this
will also be here fred also, president obama has no plan to announce tax cuts and spending cuts. why they don't add up to anything meaningful. lou: the testimony before congress has been surveyed. congressman mike rogers. everyone else has testified that they didn't. do you agree? >> i do agree. and the deputies committee, i'm sure the white house representatives of national security from the national security agency council had their orders. lou: general david petraeus says for his part, one of the confusing things -- confusion between the testimony he gave to congress three days after september 11 and what he said over the past few days in congress, it represents what happens when you try to avoid tipping off terrorists. do you buy that? >> according to congressman king, it indicates that betray d petraeus deadlock. lou: is appropriate for a military man to take upon himself or herself for the good of the country and misrepresent reality united states congress. >> certainly based on what congressman king has reported in the open press something of the like. lou: specifically, it me
to be optimistic. neither taxes nor spending nor entitlements were solved today. in fact, president obama never even mentioned the word spending. the one thing we do know, your taxes are going up from an obama care tax attack. no matter what happens on the fiscal cliff. and is another bailout nation on the way? student loans up to $1 trillion, huge delinquency rates, default rates going sky high, no credit standards and sky high tuition. sound likes a real bad story to me. ceos have just wrapped up their meeting with president obama about the fiscal cliff and minutes ago john harwood landed a big fish. goldman sachs ceo lloyd blank finefein. >> the highlight of the meeting was the intensity from which the white house emphasized that marge al rates as a matter of math and politics have to go up somewhat, if not all the way to 31.6 had to go up and as p he said as a necessary ingredient of a deal, he would support such a rate. >> the president said we would pursue our own interests. i'm not -- i'm certainly not insisting, i don't even desire higher rates. i think there lab drag if revenue goes up
. >> they voted for government that works. >> we don't understand why raising tax rates is the solution. >> can party leaders get a deal? >> impossible. >> all this talk about taxing the rich is nonsense. >> grover norquist. >> you speak of grover norquist. >> he's an entertaining warrior. >> pledge mentality is really on the run right now. >> speaker boehner clearly wants a deal. >> he can't have one arm tied behind his back. >> the top 1%, only 42% of the wealth. >> 48.5 million people lived below the poverty level. >> we should ask the wealthy to start paying their fair share. >> the american sense of fairness, no one should pay more than 25%. >> today's republican party has imploded. >> they are in denial. >> they are looking for someone to blame. >> grover is no longer speaking for the party. >> they may not be willing to just die on this hill anymore. >>> good evening. i'm ezra cline in for lawrence o'donnell. the craziest thing is happening in washington right now. you've probably heard of the fiscal cliff or as lawrence likes to call it, the fiscal curve or as my friend calls t the aust
news reported on nervous democrats in the house and senate who were wary about pushing hard for tax hikes for the wealthiest americans. among them are seven senators up for reelection in 2014 in red states. the centrist think tank gave them ammunition with a polling memo showing most americans want compromise in washington. third way, what about the people's way? folks, compromise does not mean giving republicans everything they want and you know that paul ryan is going to be greedy when he comes to the table. the most important poll was taken on november 6th. the americans are on board for higher taxes for the wealthiest americans. labor groups have take on to the air waves to address the democratic lawmakers who are making the deal. >> how do we move our country forward? by creating jobs and growing our economy. not by cutting programs that families rely on most. we need senator mccaskill to continue to stand up for us. we need senators bennett and udall to stand up for us. we need senators warner and webb to continue to stand up for us by investing in job creation, extending the
entitlements and spending on the table. republicans saying they're willing to do tax revenue and that could be or would be the key to any agreement to avoi the fiscal cliff and get the country's books back in order. gerri: you will be covering this for a long time. thanks for that. this black friday wal-mart shoppers think protests, it is not a superstore workers on the picket line. jeff flock joins us with more. jeff: a few of them but the majority were not wal-mart workers but members of other unions like the teamsters, the uaw, it was built today as a demonstration again the notion of working on thursday on thanksgiving. the day before black friday. but the protest when it came down to it wasn't so much about that. was against walmart's practice of paying minimum-wage, not giving workers enough money in their view and about work rules. that is what the actual protests came down to. it was organized by organization called our walmart, the shadow union for the non-union walmart and well-organized by united food and commercial workers union which is trying to organize at wal-mart. take a lo
for a tax increase. we could ask president bush how his second term went after he broke his pledge. did he damage the pledge or by breaking his pledge, he lost a second term for the presidency. >> and this morning, even fox and friends were getting all philosophical about till death do us part pledges. >> i think you get into really difficult situations in relationships in general when you make people sign on the dotted line and then you crucify them if they decide to change their line. i'll bring it back to marriage. marriages don't work when one or both parties stand on both sides of the fence and say i'm not budging. then you get divorced. that's what happens. >> crystal, let me explain this being dumped thing to you because i know you've never -- >> it's happened once or twice. >> stop. you lost an election, so you have some sensation of what grover is going through. >> poor guy. i feel for him. it is remarkable because he's had this pledge in place since 1986. george h.p. bush violated the pledge, it essentially led to newt gingrich and the contract for america and we have been living
, the jump in taxes woul likely quickly push the u.s. economy into a recession and there is nothing the fed cado to prevent that from happening. gei: it seems to have unloaded everytng they have, the economy has to come back on its own now. >> they can do with the bank of japan is now supposedly considering, resort to negative interest rate policy. consumerwould be charged to keep money in savings accounts. that is one way getting people to spend, i don't think that is likely to happen anytime soon. gerri: i think that is just crazy talk to lots of viewers. but it is reality. instead of getting paid for putting your money someplace, which is the way it normally happens, instead you have to pay for the privilege. now why are people willing to make that trade-off? >> simply because they don't have enough room in their mattress to store their money or they don't have enough confidence to put their money in other financial assets sucas stocks. gerri: we are not here yet. >> could be a reality in japan the japanese want to weaken the yen. that is one way of doing it. gerri: he is optimistic abou
an alternative minimum tax he had been talking about for the really wealthy. >> 30% or something. >> anybody from 1 to $10 million. also talked a little bit about raising the -- >> same thing he's been saying all along. >> he added that when it comes to who should be paying the higher taxes, he wants the threshold to be $500,000. >> and you see steven rattner on on talking about capital gains, deductions and things you've talked about a lot. >> time for the global markets report. ross westgate totally still confuse aed about thanksgiving and pilgrims. what was all the hoopla about? you celebrate boxing or something, don't you? like we lost a great boxer. is that what you celebrate? what is boxing day? >> boxing day, the day of a christmas. >> you wrap all your presents in boxes? >> i think it's something to do with all the presents. i'm not quite sure. >> yeah, put them in boxes. >> maybe. >> so you ignored our thanksgiving. but feeling okay again? >> yeah. you know, it's okay. it's all right. it's gone. now we can concentrate on the run up to christmas. and how much shopping we have to do. >> a
norquist's anti-tax pledge. saying they're open to letting revenues rise if democrats do their part in the budget talks. >> when you're $16 trillion in debt, the only pledge we should be making to each other is to avoid becoming greece, and republicans should put revenue on the table. i will violate the pledge, long story short, for the good of the country only if democrats will do entitlement reform. >> a pledge you signed 20 years ago, 18 years ago is for that congress. for instance, if i were in congress in 1941, i would have signed the declaration of war against japan. we're not going to attack japan today. the world has changed, and the economic situation is different. >> so peter king is telling us, mike barnicle, not only is he going soft on taxes, he's going soft on japan. >> i know. >> it's not just peter king on the taxes. it's a big step, don't you think? >> it's a big step. >> grover. yeah, grover's taking a big hit since the election. there's no doubt about it. i think john, you'd verify this. number of republicans, i've talked to a couple of united states senators who
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congress needs to address before the end of the year and even though the tax increases are going to take effect in 36 days, there's still only talk of a compromise, so can congress actually walk the walk or are we going to go off this cliff? up next, mike lee of utah. really appreciate you taking the time. you wrote an op-ed in the washington times and said quote, delaying significant fiscal restraint will send the wrong signal and may serve as taping point for our economy. so you're fear is that interest rates could surge. to be father, we've had this disastrous situation for years and interest rates have kept falling in spite of all worries that there would be a disaster. >> that's right. that's one of the things that distinguishes the fiscal cliff, which we're coming up against right now. from what i described yesterday says the fiscal avalanche. we can see when the fiscal cliff is about to hit. the avalanche occurs when people stop buying u.s. treasury instruments and we have to start raising the interest rate. eventually, we get to the point where we can't afford anything and that's
issues there. >> a revenue side, yes. >> where is that revenue going to come from? >> increasing tax rates is going to harm dmik growth. >> warren buffett was out this morning talking about tacking the wealthy. >> time to make the tax rates more progressive. >> that's just silly. >> grover norquist, he wanted ground government in the bathtub. i hope he slips in there with it. >> medicaid, social security. >> this is not part of the conversation. we're not going to raid social security. just another fight in washington. >> there's going to be blood and hair and eyeballs all over the floor. >> i'm more positive thap most. >> if not, we go off the supposed cliff. >> the fiscal cliff or slope. the bump of various height. >> it's going to sell that fiscal cliff. >>> thelma and louise might need to make room in the car for the president of the united states. at the white house today, senior obama administration officials met with liberal leaders and union officials. "the washington post" reports that one told him after the meeting, quote, would the white house go off the cliff if it's betw
sales tax. now a move to close the loopholes that are costing states millions. plus at least when people shop online this doesn't happen. [oh] >> shepard: tonight, the brawl at the mall. a jury cleared casey anthony of murdering her little girl. >> we, the jury, find the defendant not guilty. >> shepard: now some potentially explosive evidence about a computer search somebody did on the day little caylee disappeared. and this was no ordinary parade can a gety. >> snn colon and then a number. >> shepard: shredded police documents apparently reigning down on the thanksgiving day crowd. >> i didn't know what to make of all of this information. >> tonight, investigation and police respond. but first from fox this monday night, some republicans are now saying they are willing to break their no tax hikes pledge to keep us all from going right over the fiscal cliff at the end of the year. it's pretty new and that's when pretty much everybody's taxes will go up if congress and the president can't cut a deal. g.o.p. leaders insist they still do not want to raise tax rates. instead, they say they
, that what moved up nicely is going to be the piggy bank that gets cracked first before the tax man comes based on the unknowns of the fiscal cliff. >> would you buy gold here, michael? >> no, no. i'm going wait for it to wash out a little more. then i'm going add to my positions. i have a -- >> you don't weigh gold outright. >> you have to own some gold. qe-4 is coming. no doubt about it. they're already doing $40 billion per month. it's going to be $85 billion of unsterilized counterfeiting per month starting january 1. how do you abandon gold in that premise? >> that's exactly right. we're playing it a little bit differently. we like some of the gold-related companies. >> the miners have gotten beaten up. they got beat up much worse than the actual metals. >> there's cost and exploration you have to factor in. >> are those your best ideas? >> no, actually. i think you can still -- i'm half if cash. i think you can look for areas to enter in o short position on lockheed martin. >> defense stocks because of the fiscal cliff. >> yes, but once that gets solved, i think you have a huge rall
take president obama's party. doo extend bush tax cuts for all but the top 2%. that's a sign some republicans may be open to higher rates for the rich. >>> is it possible negotiators could learn something from the most important movie out there right now "lincoln." doris good win joins us. >>> let me finish with how lincoln outlawed slavery for good and how de it using politics. this is "hardball," the place for politics. with the spark cash card from capital one, olaf gets great rewards for his small business! pizza! [ garth ] olaf's small business earns 2% cash back on every purchase, every day! helium delivery. put it on my spark card! [ pop! ] [ garth ] why settle for less? great businesses deserve great rewards! awesome!!! [ male announcer ] the spark business card from capital one. choose unlimited rewards with 2% cash back or double miles on every purchase, every day! what's in your wallet? he loves risk. but whether he's climbing everest, scuba diving the great barrier reef with sharks, or jumping into the market, he goes with people he trusts, which is why he trades with
putting limits on their no tax pledge and telling grover norquist to get lost. but remember, there's only one of those people in the houpts. >>> keeping home and change alive. president obama's aits are hoping to keep the campaign going and use their new leverage at the polls to bin the fight for higher taxes against the wealthy. >>> this is "hardball," the place for politics. bp has paid over twenty-three billion dollars to help those affected and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches and gulf are open, and many areas are reporting their best tourism seasons in years. and bp's also committed to america. we support nearly 250,000 jobs and invest more here than anywhere else. we're working to fuel america for generations to come. our commitment has never been stronger. >>> get ready for some more partisan agendas in the state governments across the country. that's because some january at least 37 states will be under single party control. 37 of them. with one party holding both houses of state legislatures and the governorship. and that's the largest number of states under single part
, not raise taxes. if he wants to change his mind and become a tax increaser so we don't have to reform government, he needs to have that conversation with the people of georgia. >>> >> and new today, congressman peter king on the controversy. >> i agree with chambliss. if i were in congress in 1941, i would have signed al declaration of war against japan. i'm not going to declare war against japan today. the times have changed. ronald reagan and tip o'neil recognized that in the '80s. everything should be on the table. >> joining me, ed and david. thank you for joining me. >> good to see you, alex. >> you heard representative king on "meet the press" saying that he agrees on the pledge to not raise taxes. >> if you look at exit polling, people want to see democrats and republicans working together. you talk to them over and over again and voters say that and expect it. you see lawmakers since they have returned saying that they want to work together and one of the ways is that whether it was on taxes or other issues. >> so david, the change of heart by the gop on taxes, is it legitimat
at the white house this afternoon to make his case for higher taxes ahead. we will also go to the home state of a kai player in tey pl talks. >>> the chevy volt struggling to work with car makers aed car buyers. why is general motors doubling down with its big bet in electric and has it jumped its sales? >>> facebook stock up 10% in the past week and 30% the past two months. has it finally turned a corpser? >>> speaking of corners, we have switched corners, tyler, the gentleman that he is, is braving you the snow and the ice in new york city and he is down on the floor of the new york estock exchange. >> a mucky day. not since 2008 has it been so high. more evidence the housing recovery is taking root. prices rising in the big cities but a warning we may head into a recession next year if the u.s. and europe don't solve their fiscal messes. right now the dow industrials a built of a breather down 21 points. >>> meanwhile, 34 days to the fiscal cliff. will a deal be done in time? today, president obama meets with small business leaders to make his case for the possibility of higher taxes ahea
, more republicans seeming to break their no tax pledge but still bickering with democrats over the so-called fiscal cliff. and just under 35 days now america falls off that cliff. you've heard the menacing sound right there. this triggers drastic spending cuts and tax hikes. now there are some signs of compromise on capitol hill. several top republicans saying they're willing to at least consider raising tax revenues to get a spending plan passed within the next five weeks. however when the lame duck senate returned to work yesterday, it sure sounded like the same old stalemate. >> the senate has spoken and president obama has spoken. he's promised he will not sign any bill that mortgages our future to pay for handouts to the wealthiest 2% of americans. i only hope house republicans have been listening. >> we've been responsible, even as we've remained firm on this point. no tax increases now for promised spending cuts that won't materialize later. >> hardly a political plug there. cnn political director mark preston is live from washington this morning. mark, so far there are no form
of the physical cliff. maybe they don't know what it means. maybe they don't know about the tax increases that await us. do they know about the layoffs and the ta awtake away of the stimulus. are they foolish and brave? smug, we won't go back into a recession? perhap s obtuse. first off, we shouldn't be putting that much faith in the consumer value customers to begin with. it was right at the beginning of the breakdown of society as we know it. sure, they were confident. but they were wrong. second, many people polled were paying income taxes. we know that 47% of the people in the country were paying the rates. but a lot of people in the country, cohorts are small and it is a small part of the survey. given how difficult the tax code is to comprehend. i have been trying to figure out what it could be. that makes me cautious. third, it is possible we are overstating the whole fiscal cliff issue. there are people that kcalculat how much they would owe. they are still spending aggressively. maybe they don't care. perhaps the fiscal cliff is not impacting people because so much of the discuss
. a number of republicans are finally putting limits on their no tax pledge and telling grover norquist to get lost. but remember, there's only one of those people in the house of representatives. >>> keeping hope and change alive. president obama's aides are hoping to keep the campaign going and use their new leverage at the polls to win the fight for higher taxes against the wealthy. >>> this is "hardball," the place for politics. [ male announcer ] this december, remember -- what starts with adding a friend... ♪ ♪ ...could end with adding a close friend. ♪ the lexus december to remember sales event is on, offering some of our best values of the year. this is the pursuit of perfection. >>> get ready for some more partisan agendas in the state governments across the country. that's because come january at least 37 states will be under single party control. 37 of them. with one party holding both houses of state legislatures and the governorship. and that's the largest number of states under single party control in 60 years. 24 of those 37 states will be controlled by republicans
of raising taxes in the face of the fiscal cliff. >>> courageous until the end. a former mayor in mexico who fearlessly stood up to the drug cartels found murdered. >>> and face-to-face behind closed doors today, u.n. ambassador susan rice takes on one of her sharpest critics, senator john mccain, over her actions after the benghazi attack. good morning and welcome to "early start," i'm deborah feyerick in for john berman. >> really nice to have you. >> i'm so glad to be here. >> i'm zoraida sambolin. it's 5:00 a.m. in the east. first, congress back to work, and back to bickering. in just under 35 days, america hits the fiscal cliff. that triggers severe spending cuts and tax hikes. several top republicans are now defying party politics and signaling a willingness to consider increasing tax revenues to get a budget deal done. but when the lame duck senate got back in session yesterday it sure sounded like the same old broken record. >> the senate has spoken. president obama has spoken. he's promising he will not sign any bill that mortgages our future to pay for handouts to the wealthiest 2%
uncertainty, jim, uncertain in taxes, uncertain in the elections. >> right. >> caller: and inflation is a big concern of mine. is there anything i can do at my age to protect myself from all these uncertainties that are coming up? >> okay, well, look. i've got to tell you unless you have -- you're a person who really does have to heed my 20% in gld or gold, gold bullion. i'm not going to tell you listen, you should buy bonds that yield 2% and that's going to protect you. i think gold is going to be the best defense you have against the worries that you just outlined. let's go to anthony in virginia, please. anthony? >> caller: washington redskins boo-yah rg3 nation stand up. >> man. dan snyder is your owner, have you thought about that at all? >> caller: i got a quick question. >> boo! >> when stay on the sidelines or look to get in long-term? >> when it's overbought, my old rule, i use the s&p oscillator. it comes delivered to my door on saturdays. my rule is very overbought, hey, take a pass. another time will come. however, you can get started small and hope it comes back if you just can't
. it's important for them to pay back taxes and important to learn english and it's important for them to potentially pay a fine. but to give them the avenue whereby they can resolve their legal status here in this country is very important. >> now, one thing that stuck out to me there is rather than saying path to citizenship he said path to legal status, which is two different things. with citizen ship you can vote and with legal status you can't. for a lot of republicans a sticking point has been that distinction. it was their problem with the dream act, because when you lose latino voters by that large margin, you don't want more latino voters. ann coulter said something at a conference a while back that stuck with me. she said after obama care our biggest issue is immigration because if we allow amnesty the whole country will go the way of california and we will never win a national election again. i think that distinction could be an important one in this battle and sticking point. the other thing is republicans have used the immigration issue in primaries and with their base for
to get the majority of a majority on tax issues. he's not going to get a majority of majority on debt raising. >> much harder on the debt ceiling than taxes. >> that's what i'm saying. i refuse to vote to raise a debt ceiling when they were trying to raise it to $5 trillion. it's something you don't do unless you get a lot of cuts on the other side. >> and it's not a game. because if you don't raise it, we saw what happened last time, you can get your debt downgraded and has real economic consequenc consequences. and that's why when people think about the fiscal cliff, we all assume that sane minds will prevail and they'll come up with some deal. there's no guarantee that sane minds will prevail. and recent history would suggest that sanity almost never prevails in washington. so you can assume it's going to be more difficult than we think. you can assume that the bush tax cuts might all go away for a short period of time. and you cannot assume they just raise the debt limit. you cannot make that assumption. >> are the president's men and women -- are they under -- are they making the
everybody, our start start this morning the fight over the cliff intensifies. remember that no tax hike pledge. new signs that the gop may be starting to rebel from that. maybe a compromise before the 35-day deadline passes. and congress gets back to work this morning. plus a power grab in egypt. mohamed morsi under fire for granting himself extraordinary powers. will that affect cease-fire talks between israel and hamas? they're happening in egypt today. >> and $59 billion! retail records broken as americans crowded stores for some competitive shopping over the weekend. and now cyber monday is here. will shoppers be in even more of a spending mood? >> you want to talk about money? a new powerball jackpot. a new record in the cash payout. it's unreal. >> a packed two hours ahead for you this morning. new jersey congressman bill pascrell will be joining us, grover norquist, jamie rubin, dr. hanan ashrawi, will be our guest, peter billingsley from a christmas story, and grinle college hoops star jack taylor. remember him? big game he had the other day. and the one and only tony benne
to usual his party to strike a deal. right now, get this done. keeping the bush tax cults for 98% of americans, give up on keeping tax cuts low for the wealthy, 2%. take a listen to what cole on capitol hill had to say moments ago. >> in my view, we all agree that we're not going to raise taxes on people who make less than $250,000. we should take them out of this discussion right now and continue to fight against any rate increase, continue to try to work honestly for a much bigger deal. >> has the tipping point been reached, sir? is the compromise in front of us right now because so many republicans are willing to talk act revenue? >> well, look. tom cole, who is a friend of mine, was the former chairman of the republican congressional campaign committee. i am the current chairman of the democratic congressional campaign committee. anytime you can get the former republican congressional campaign committee chair and the current democratic congressional committee democratic chair to agree on something, do it, pass it. tom cole is right. this is why people are frustrated with wash
up 800 billion in new revenue and overhaul the tax system and changes to medicare and that's why the republicans are asking the democrats to come in and explain your deal. this plan was hatched in 2010 and everyone walked away from it and now they call bowles back up? it is late. this is what the american people are upset about. nothing gets done. >> steve: we are a month from the cliff. >> gretchen: we could have avoided the cliff if they used the plan as a starting point. americans are upset nothing gets done. >> brian: norquist is the bad guy. you should walk away from grover norquest. he said you have enough money on capitol hill and stop asking us . he's been a watch dog on our money so whether you are democrat or republican you should salute him. he warned you in the past that people who walked away from the no new taxes paid a price. >> remember the gang of 6. three of the people that you mentioned spent eight months in the room with democrats, pretending to negotiate tax increases for entitlement reform . after a while coburn had to admit they were offered nothing but tax
their own day of thanks. >> they can't stand it. this is one we made good without them. they tried to tax us without representation. >> i think july 4th is probably worse. >> either way, they hate both of those holidays. >> ross, do you hate thanksgiving? >> no, i don't hate thanksgiving. 400 years ago, they gave thanks for the pilgrim fathers to leave, i think. >> there you go. they didn't want us anyway. >> now look what happened. >> oh. he's 007. >> good luck with the turkey, by the way. >> thank you, ross. we appreciate it. have a great day or so. we'll see you back here on friday. >> they probably don't like any of our holidays. >> christmas. >> very jealous. >> they have places in london with a good thanksgiving. i remember when i lived in london, ross could participate in this. >> that was big of him. i was going to ask him about thanksgiving, but he extended a happy thanksgiving. >> i could tell it was tinged with a little resentment. >> not from ross. >> still to come on squawk, we have a well-known name to our viewers. jim chanos, he'll be joining us in just a few minutes. >>> befo
to raise taxes we're going to do it on everybody. that to me is fairness. i don't think anybody's taxes ought to be raised. i'm offended listening to the people responsible for this blame the american people because they're not paying enough in taxes for the problem. that's not our problem. our problem is a spending problem, first, second, third, fourth, fifth, on down to number ten. >> the countdown is on and we're 42 days from running off the so-called fiscal cliff. yesterday as you heard, rush limbaugh came down hard against raising taxes to solve this problem. he lamented the gop infighting whether to let the bush tax cuts expire on the richest americansp during a speech yesterday, federal reserve chairman ben bernanke who coined the term fiscal cliff warned of dire consequences if congress doesn't get their act together. >> spending cuts that make up the fiscal cliff absent offsetting changes would pose a substantial threat recovery. by the reckoning of the congressional budget office, the cbo, and that of many outside observers a fiscal shock of that size would send the economy to
enough to make a deal. senator mark warner, the third wealthiest man of the senate, outfront on tax rates and whether the president needs to take a bigger role. >>> plus, the u.n. ambassador to the u.s. susan rice, admits the talking points she used after the benghazi attack were wrong. republicans call her answers troubling. >>> and a former mayor spent her life taking on thugs in her town. her fight and her life tonight are now over. let's go out front. >>> good evening, everyone. i'm erin burnett "outfront" tonight, where in the world is president obama? it's been 11 days since he met with congressional leaders on the fiscal cliff. and with impending doom as a lot of people describe it, just 35 days away, key lawmakers say the president hasn't worked hard enough with them to broker a deal. >> rather than sitting down with lawmakers of both parties and working out an agreement, he's back on the campaign trail presumably with the same old talking points that we're all quite familiar with. >> well, now, as far as top democrats are concerned, things haven't been going so well since that no
the free enterprise work. >> i would take a good hard look at the whole country. my taxes went up 39% and came down 49%. how can anybody get excited about that when you're like god. so somehow we have to get strategic leadership that says that we need to get this engine and the economy pumping again. neil: do you think, and this is mentioned byitt romney a lot. you know that you are going to do things differently? dubai that? >> everybody talks about reducing taxes because they want more capital to grow their business. but it's also regulations. businesses are confronted at the township and city level. >> here in chicago, you need 161 licenses to open up the business. >> if you open up a job shop, you have to have a license to give them a bath. it's ridiculous. why can't we consolidate some of these things and reduce the bureaucracy? it isn't about the people collecting anything but a paycheck. neil: they must realize that the more they push this, the more it it endangers the economy and their very jobs are online. >> you would think so, when you? there is a lot of evidence that says
for states because, of course, you have to pay taxes on any of your winnings. so with the lot he commission increasing the price was generate revenue. they did and wow they will with this jackpot of $500 million. >> alison, did you buy a ticket? >> reporter: oh, no, i have no problem admitting it. i will go ahead and buy a few tickets of my own. >> good luck to you. thank you. we'll talk to you soon. >>> the other big story this morning, if at once you don't succeed, try, try again. susan rice, the u.n. ambassador returns for a second round of meeting with republican senators. rice failed to win over her sharpest gop critics yesterday still troubled about her comments following the u.s. attack in the u.s. consulate in benghazi that spring from a protest. she told "ac 360" that rice misled the american public. >> she would say that. she would have to say that because she began our meeting today admitting the representations of the video and the protests were wrong. and the impression left the american people misleading. >> senators graham and mccain are now more concerned than before they me
the no taxes pledge created by the president of americans for tax reform, grover norqui norquist, the two most terrifying words a republican can hear, other than buenos diaz. but now some republicans are abandoning the anti-tax pledge as fast as they abandoned -- what's his name? don't help me. don't help me. rip flambe -- no, that's my personal trainer. >> all right. good morning. it's wednesday, november 28th. look at this live look at rockefeller plaza. it is just lit up. gorgeous. >> you know what happens tonight? >> oh, yes, the big tree lighting. >> big commerce -- >> exciting for all the children. >> all right. welcome to "morning joe." >> mike, do you think that's going to whip people into a buying frenzy -- >> it's comcastic. >> a five-year running joke. >> i guess he wasn't paying attention. >> yes. >> national affairs editor for "new york" magazine. john heilemann and andrea mitchell. >> a lot of people say, i'm in trouble. and they've got these little arm bands now, wwjd. what would joe do? so what do i say? you've seen those, wwjd. >> everywhere. >> i say make a mistake, just step
for places like the united states. >>> 34 days left before automatic tax hikes and spending cuts are triggered by the fiscal cliff. democrats and republicans appear stuck on entitlement reforms. democrats don't want deep cuts to programs like medicaid, medicare, social security. some republicans say it's the only way to get a deal. >> the reason we're having these negotiations is because washington democrats have spent money without any care for the cost or the future. and refuse to do anything to protect long-term spending programs like medicare, a failure that's among the biggest single drivers of our debt. >> one out of three people in this country are going to rely on medicare and head cade for their health insurance. so we need to find ways to preserve these programs. >> senator durbin says the debate over entitlement programs should be fought after the new year. he's going to join us in a few minutes to talk about it. >>> police on new york's long island investigating a deadly bus crash, a 6-year-old boy was killed last night when the driver of that bus lost control and wen
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almanac had today. >> we want to know what taxes are going to be. there is a big -- one of the things i look at the charts every weekend. i'm pathetic. i have them delivered to my door. everything stops in the house. utility stocks are horrendous. i think that's people saying, look, dividend is going to -- >> 39.6 on your dividends will be a different story. >> have you seen those charts? they are the worst. >> i get them delivered as well of course. >> who doesn't? >> saturday morning i like to get up and look at my charts. >> i think we have something in common. i feel better. >> three tech companies known for their beaten down stocks are getting good news from the street today. facebook upgraded to outperform over at bernstein. cibc raising rimm and yahoo! added to the conviction buy list at goldman sachs. cnbc and yahoo! have a business alliance to share and co-produce editorial content. my favorite is rimm. >> i love that. >> the blackberry 10 is locked in for january 30th. they say the carrier feedback will become more clear and a lack of new competing devices -- not sure on what
the automatic spending cuts and tax increases. he said going over the fiscal cliff would pose a substantial risk to the economy. according to a new study the fiscal cliff could give 90% of americans new tax bills when the bush tax rates and some by president obama would both end. the working poor would be among the hardest hit. a tax policy center analysis showed a married couple making about $30,000 a year would on average go from receiving a $15 tax credit to owing $1400. >> wow. >> yeah. that's probably a reason to try and get something done? >> maybe we will. maybe we will. >> you would think. >> yeah. or maybe we can just talk about 2016. >> we could do that as well. how are you doing, willie? >> i'm doing well. >> good. just two weeks after the longest -- >> thanks for stopping by. >> doing well. >> you know, just two weeks after the longest, most expensive and exhausting election in u.s. history eyes are turning to 2016 as speculation begins over the next batch of candidates lining up to run for president. >> who could that be? i know it's going to be a surprise. >> i know it is too. we'r
forward ahead of tax changes next year. the question is who's next? >> greece gets the bailout payment as the eu and imf agree on terms of debt sustainability. where does it leave the greek economy which has already shrunk by nearly a fifth? >>> and warren buffett on tv this morning saying he wouldn't sell a single share of stock even if he was guaranteed the u.s. goes off the fiscal cliff. just wait until you hear who he thinks should be the treasury secretary. >> we'll begin of course with the deal of the day. conagra foods has agreed to acquire ralcorp for $5 billion. $90 a share in cash. 28% premium to the closing price on monday. kayla tausche reported on potential for a deal between the two companies back in 2011. it creates the largest private label food company in north america. this is a big deal. >> yes, it is. it's big in size in terms of what we've seen in this market. look how excited he is. and they finally got it done. it's been one as you pointed out that was around in 2011. they couldn't get it done. that is conagra. they walked away. ralcorp stock price fell dramatica
." you better do it the next 35 days? >> this is one of big igest tax deductions out there. it's about $158 billion. the cost to the federal government, 37 million tax returns, lots of people do it. it's on the table though for the fiscal cliff to be eliminated or to be capped. >> gregg: it could go away january. it could be capped or thrown away entirely. talk to us about some of the best ways to give at the same time helping yourself with a tax deduction. >> first of all americans are generous. 2% of their income they give regardless. revenues are down because we have been through a recession. but they continue to give. it's that generosity of spirit that we continue to see through sandy and all the rest. there are a couple of things you have to know. you have to itemize on your tax return. it has to go to a qualified nonprofit. if you are giving food to people that need it you can't deduct that because it's to an individual, it has to be a qualified nonprofit. you need a receipt if are giving away $250 or more. if it is over $5,000 you need an appraisal. you need to consider the fai
care, food, housing, to you name it. these are people who pay no income tax, 47% of americans pay no income tax. so my job is not to worry about those people. >> mitt romney's famous comments on the 47% raise two questions. how can he say that? how can he say a single mom working two jobs and taking advantage of the child tax credit and a senior that worked all of his life and enjoying the years of his life that he paid into how can he say they refuse to take responsibility for their lives? the other question was what the hell did he mean? romney said the 47% likely to vote for obama were the same 47% who didn't pay federal income taxes and are the same 47% who are dependent on government? that's not even a little bit true, not a little. a lot of the folks who don't pay federal income taxes are seniors, the most republican leaning age group in the country and there is no 47% in the country that refuses to take responsibility for their lives. they just don't exist. romney wasn't all wrong. the number 47% really did hold the key to this election. it was not the number of people who
automatic tax hikes and spending cuts at the same time and an economists say it could cause another resomething. the president met with congressional leaders from both parties, but harry reid says there has not been much progress since then. mike emmanuel is on capitol hill. republicans are asking for changes to social security and medicare. any common ground? >> shep, in public, it does not sound like it. top republican leaders say if you want to avoid the fiscal cliff, you need to address the drivers of our debt. >> we know that the only way we can solve our long-term debt and deficit problem is to fix the unsustainable growth rates of our very popular entitlement programs. the president has from time to time indicated an openness to that. now is the time to actually do it. >> 42 business groups sent a letter to leaders of congress asking them to do tax reform to lower tax rates and also address entitlement reforms. >> shepard: democrats say they want more revenue, more taxes here. what about entitlement changes? >> well, any time you start talking about tweaking these programs, t
taxes and reduce the debt. are you kidding me?! push the pause button? we already pushed the pause button in 2011. these representatives were sent back to washington to get something done now. in fact, pushing the pause button could destroy america's credit rating and further harm the economy. mark zandi, chief economist at moody's analytics says, "if we can kick the can, at some point moody's is going to downgrade. you're going to create more instability in the financial markets." zandi said it would be better to do nothing than to create an extension. republicans and some centrist democrats are definitely not getting the message. when the president won re-election, he said his number one priority is to reach an economic deal by reaching across both sides of the aisle. >> i want to be clear. i'm not wedding to every detail of my plan. i'm open to compromise. i'm open to new ideas. i'm committed to solving our fiscal challenges. but i refuse to accept any approach that isn't balanced. >> republicans and some democrats stop listening right there. if you let the president just contin
buy online from the majority of people support and online sales tax. jerry joins us. welcome to the show. >> it's a funny how times change. a decade or so and put you out of business. credible market evaluation, we are a little worried about that. >> not at all. toys "r" us.com, we collect sales tax. so do all of them at this company. what the loophole has been is the only companies that have not been collecting sales tax, it looks like it's imminent. >> will that be good, that level of the playing field? >> everyone admits, includi companies that there should be a level playing field. it's so interesting because i did talk about the good old days. i don't know that the internet has lived up to the hype, but only now when i look at these earnings reports that the traction that we see, certainly i don't know that it will put brick-and-mortar businesses out. you think that will happen now? is that the inevitable part of retailing? >> i don't view it as one or the other. the model of the future for retail is the only channel model. the superior channel is where you have internet
to pay tax i think on your winnings in the u.s. but there is also only a one in 176 million chance of winning. but what would you do if you did scoop the top prize? e-mail us at worldwide@cnbc.com, @cnbcwex, or @rosswestgate. >>> and warning of an impact of the strong yen on growth, but the job of solving that doesn't lie on the bank of japan alone. more when we come back. >>> it's cyber monday and shoppers are expected to spend more than $1.5 billion. >> from the moment you check out at amazon.com, the prz begins. your item is picked, sorded, packed and shipped. this is what the holidays look like here at amazon. to give you perspective, this is just one of 40 fulfillment centers across the country packed with thousands of items in time for the holiday rush. and they'll need them. last cyber monday, they sold more than 200 items per second. one glance at the shelves and it seems work hes put stuff wherever they can find space. >> it helps associates where they don't have to worry about putting things. >> so wherever there is space, there will be product. gr and it doesn't matter c
of indications from the republican caucus you in the house they are ready to accept tax increases. are there any republicans who are willing to go over the fiscal cliff rather than cave to the president's demands for higher taxes? >> i think the only people you've heard willing to go fiscal cliff, senator patty murray said that because they have one intended purpose is to raise tax rates. if you raise the top two tax brackets you are only getting $85 billion in additional revenue annually. that only takes care the debt for ten days. it will service the federal government for 21 days. so this is gimmick. we need to be able to articulate that. we need to listen to the federation of independent businesses that we protect them so we can production and manufacturing once again and economic growth. >> alan west, i sure appreciate it. next, why does al gore want to get his hands on the video of a fire tornado. the man explains why, he won't give it up coming up. >>> you may have seen this stunning of a fire nado by independent videographer. this also caught the eye of pal al gore and protector of the p
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